Some nuggets from a week’s worth of comments

After returning from vacation I went in to approve the blog comments that were sitting in the possibly-spam folder. This gave me the chance to skim through a couple hundred comments, and there were some gems! We often have great comments but I just read them as they come in, one at a time. Seeing a week of comments all at once made me appreciate what we’ve got here. So, thanks everyone for contributing to our discussions!

Here are a few fun comments from last week:

From Anoneuoid:

A friend and I were talking the other day about all the people who seem to be on the phone (via headset) all day at work. This is particularly common for jobs like cab/uber driver, convenience store clerk, and mail/package delivery.

Who exactly is available to talk all day with them? Then we realized who must be on the other end of the conversation: other people with similar jobs.

That lead to the next idea, what if for every “crazy” person who hears voices and talks to themself there is another “crazy” person on the other end?

Now yes, this theory requires assuming some form of natural long distance communication is possible. And also must be highly compressed/encrypted to escape detection for so long. But all of that sounds like what you would expect evolutionarily anyway.

I love how that comment starts with an amusing observation and then goes off the deep end. It’s kind of like science standup.

And this from Jd:

Random forest, neural nets, bagging, and boosting sounds so cool. You know, if your sponsors are staring across the horizon of big data and you offer something like random forest, they may just say, “yes…yes…that’s the thing.” Mr P is sorta cool, but it sounds kinda like a hip hop artist. But if you say, well we ran this Bayesian linear regression with a couple of variables, how are you gonna compete against the feedforward artificial neural network multilayer perceptron model?? It’s like boring old stats vs the Transformers.

Finally, a serious one from Anonymous, relating to the controversial unreproducible paper from Google on chip design:

This repository has been up for over a year, right? Have things changed since this statement from Andrew Kahng? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vkPRgJEiLIyT22AkQNAxO8JtIKiL95diVdJ_O4AFtJ8/edit

Relevant quote:

“Further, I believe it is well-understood that the reported methods are not fully implementable based on what is provided in the Nature paper and the Circuit Training repository. While the RL method is open-source, key preprocessing steps and interfaces are not yet available. I have been informed that the Google team is actively working to address this. Remedying this gap is necessary to achieve scientific clarity and a foundation upon which the field can move forward.”

I wonder what ended up happening with that. My guess is that everyone moved forward and nobody cares about that particular method anymore, but I have no idea.

6 thoughts on “Some nuggets from a week’s worth of comments

  1. >made me appreciate what we’ve got here

    I’ve learned a lot from this blog over the past 5-6 years that I have followed it.
    I’m stoked to make it into the “nuggets” comments post. Now, how do I make it out of the automatic flagged to possibly spam folder?

    • I find Google’s response unconvincing.
      1. They point out that their repository has 100+ forks and 500+ stars. But how many people have actually *used* it, or built upon it? Looking at the list of merged PRs, there are exactly zero which do not come from a Google employee, or are anything more than a spelling/documentation fix. One person pointed out months after the release that it depended on a proprietary Google library. Google fixed this, but this is a good indication that nobody is using this.
      2. They point out that they’re no more nontransparent than other AI papers, or other EDA papers. True! But this is the problem.

      • Njo:

        Regarding the last point: that’s the double-edged sword of publicity. On one hand, it’s kind of unfair that this paper has been singled out for non-reproducibility in a world in which non-reproducibility is the norm. On the other hand, it’s kind of unfair that this paper got all this publicity in a world where other people are doing similar work but don’t happen to get papers appearing in media-connected journals.

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